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Very interesting. It would seem that both Vietnam wars, far from being "unwinnable quagmires" were actually very near-run things, with the main differentiating factor being the iron determination of the Viet Communists to conquer all Vietnam for communism, regardless of casualties, collateral damage, or postwar economic prospects, as opposed to their opponents, often divided against themselves, and unsure if the game was worth the candle. Nietzsche would have approved...

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It's interesting how they're both talked about mostly in military terms, yet both are excellent examples of the use of force for political aims. Looking at the larger goals clarifies a lot of the decisions on the ground.

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